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We thought we might collate some of the emails received in response to
Andrew Miller's rave
Nine Ways to Leave Your Lover,
Rob's rave
Protest One More Day Now... Avoid the Rush!,
and our recent reviews of Amazing Spider-Man #545 and Amazing Spider-Man
#546.
From Daniel Cevallos
Hi! I'm Daniel Cevallos from Quito, Ecuador on South America. I think that your
point of view about the last storyline "One More Day" is right. Marvel is always
destroying Spider-Man's life with freak plots like this one. Spider-Man is a
extremely loved and popular character on South America and Europe, and it's a
shame Marvel doesn't [respect] icons as Spidey. I hope someday they realize this
was a stupid decision. But I hope it might be too late. Could there be a way
that the comic community can do something about this or push Marvel Comics to
fix [it] in any way?
Spiderfan from Ecuador
As far as I can tell, there's only one way that a fan can make a comics company
listen... stop buying comics you don't like.
When I stop enjoying a title, I stop shelling out money for them; until
recently, comics in Canada typically ran between four and five dollars an issue,
far too expensive to buy if you didn't enjoy them. Publishers are sensitive to
shifts in purchasing: after Marvel attempted to replace Peter Parker with Ben
Reilly back in the Nineties, fans deserted the books in droves, and Marvel undid
what they had done. They might do the same if sales plummet after this latest
debacle.
If you're really jonesing for Spidey, buy Ultimate Spider-Man, or the
Marvel Adventures Spider-books. Buy collected editions of stories from
the decades before you began collecting. But don't buy the main titles if you
don't like their direction. At the very least, you won't be spending money on a
book that annoys you. At best, Marvel will change the book in a way that suits
you. It's a win-win proposition, really.
Despite my irritation with the main titles' direction, I intend to buy the
opening issues of Amazing, because I love Dan Slott's work. But there are
a lot of things I could spend my money on-- just ask my wife-- and if Amazing
fails to excite me, well, I'll just move on.
By Andrew.
From erics576
Your opinions on this "One More Day/Brand New Day" storyline in the Spidey books
are spot on. What's sad is, I'm afraid this is going to generate more sales for
the book, rather than fans boycotting it. I, for one, am doing the latter...for
all the good it'll do. It's a disgrace and a dishonor to (until now) such a
great character. It makes me sick. The Spider-Man I know - the one I grew up
with - would have told Mephisto to stuff it, arranged a spiritual meeting with
Dr. Strange to say goodbye to Aunt May, and taken responsibility for his
actions. Mary Jane would never have even gotten the chance to say "yes."
What's also sad is, as you mentioned regarding the identity reveal, the missed
opportunity to add more depth to an already deeply interesting character. I was
looking forward to seeing this new "fugitive-on-the-run" aspect of Spider-Man.
Sadly, we'll never see it. I guess I'll just have to read "New Avengers" from
now on for my Spidey fix.
Uncle Ben is rolling over in his grave.
It's extremely preliminary, but anecdotal evidence suggests that sales for BND
are markedly below that of OMD.
By Andrew.
From Bill
Dear Mr. Miller,
Loved your 9 ways to leave... review/essay.
I don't blog, I don't write letters to the editor, but this storyline has me
absolutely beside myself. I actually want to call up Marvel and give them my 2
cents. God knows they gladly take my $80 - $100 a month.
So now the last 20 years don't count? I feel like it's the stupid clone thing
all over again (which was also about getting rid of MJ). NO offense to the
current Marvel Genius' running the company but just maybe Stan Lee knew what he
was doing.
So what's wrong with PP being married? They can't come up with interesting
stories of a conflicted Spiderman as a married guy? First of all marriage
between 2 people, even when they are totally in love, is never easy. Just
because he was happily married to a beautiful woman (and which one of us doesn't
think our own wives are not world class beauties?) does not preclude him from
feeling like a loser at times.
It was nice to see one hero who married his sweetheart and wasn't bed hopping
from one troubled female in spandex to another. Spidey's main appeal is that he
always tries to do the right thing. He is a positive example for all of us.
Great responsibility means marrying your true love and making it work.
I suspect this is all about selling comics not about creativity. I think the
powers at Marvel believe Spider-man will appeal to wider audiences if he's a
young single guy. That just stinks. And it's wrong. A not insignificant part of
the success of the Spider-man movies was the romance of MJ & PP. That aspect of
the film appealed to women making it a great date movie that couples could go to
more than once. The kiss in the rain was a classic movie moment.
And while we're on the topic of the movie let us not forget that although Mr.
Quesada did a lot to turn around Marvels fortunes and Spider-man circulation
doubled or tripled (according to the letters heaping high praise on JMS at the
end of OMD part 4) during these last 7 years both these talented men owe a large
debt of gratitude to the incredible Spider-man movie franchise.
As to the deal with the devil (as purple as it is I usually love a good deal
with the devil story) hey, what this evil bastard would really do is have Aunt
May die of a heart attack a week later. Any idiot knows you can't beat the devil
(unless you're Daniel Webster).
Secondly no semi-happily married man is giving up the "love of his life" for his
ready to kick the bucket aunt. I love my mom but I wouldn't choose my elderly
mother over my wife. And my elderly mom wouldn't have it any other way.
This whole thing stinks like the tv show Dallas (for those old enough to
remember) when in an attempt to stop sinking ratings they brought back Bobby and
wiped out the entire previous year of episodes as a bad dream! Didn't work years
later on Roseanne either. And it's not working now!
This whole thing was an unimaginative gutless cop out not worthy of the highly
talented JMS! (For the record I think he's a brilliant writer.)
And yes it's inconceivable that of all the folks in the Marvel Universe only
their resident Devil could help. To quote John Stossel, "Give me a break!"
I like Aunt May but she pretty much brings little to the table regarding main
story lines or subplots while MJ brings worlds of possibilities. The myriad
difficulties in marriages. There's money problems, growing apart, changing jobs,
jealousies, changing roles in the relationship, working to keep the romance
alive, making decisions together, missteps, surprises, constantly learning new
things about one another.
There are the conflicts & complications of having a husband who puts his life on
the line (like a policeman, fireman or soldier) There is a very high rate of
depression, alcoholism, separation, divorce, attempted suicide, health problems,
overeating for big weight gains & diabetes, etc. in those marriages.
Then there's the difficulties of couples when one spouse is away a great deal of
the time.
The problems of couples trying to have a child. The craziness of a couples who
do have a child (even when it's just a normal human baby that can't cling to
ceilings).
I could literally go on for days with all the great possibilities for writers
who can handle the great responsibility.
Feel free to pass my letter on to any contact you have at Marvel. I want them to
know I am very disappointed. I've been collecting since Amazing Fantasy 15! And
the only other time I was this upset was during the clone nonsense. At that time
I stopped collecting for 7 years (though I was also tired of the untold numbers
of comics they were releasing with multi covers and constant cross overs in a
plot worthy of Mephisto to make sure no one had money left over for competitors
comics after picking up their Marvel books and then too there was Marvel`s
master plan to replace Mom & Pop comic shops with Marvel stores in Malls. The
greed was overwhelming.)
In closing I can not express well enough my appreciation nor the respect I have
for your website. Spiderfan.org is the absolute best.
Most Sincerely, Bill
No real pull at Marvel here, unfortunately. As always your best bet to influence
Marvel Editorial`s decisions is to cease buying the books you don`t like. It
worked for the Clone Saga.
Given a choice between OMD and the Clone Saga, though, I would say "send in the
clones."
By Andrew.
From Grant
I just read your summary of Avengers: The Initiative #7. According to your
summary, it says this solves the problem of Spider-man's secret identity. But
where in continuity does this story fall in regard to Amazing Spider-man as ther
was no reference to the solution in that title?
And will reviews of "Brand New Day" be up soon? That solution feels like a
copout. Will the Peter/MJ marriage ever be UN-retconned out? Or is this more
than just another attempt to boost sales by making a change that will likely not
be permanent?
The feeling in these parts is that Dan Slott, now one of the writers of Amazing,
was signalling to the fans that given the opportunity he could have fixed the
secret-identity problem without resort to any sort of continuity-shattering
reset button. So it doesn`t fall anywhere in regards to Amazing, it`s just a
shout-out to the fans.
As for un-retconning the marriage, well, Marvel is a big business, and it has to
make its decisions based on the bottom line. If sales on Amazing tank, I should
think MJ will be back in a jiffy.
By Andrew.
From Keith
Hey, man!
I like your idea, in that I agree there were many ways to go w/the story AND
that One More Day made no sense...
BUT!...I disagree that the only way to continue would be to have them separate
or divorce (whether in a tongue-in-cheek way or otherwise). Marriage and the
Spidey-verse itself each have PLENTY of opportunity for drama.
I'm writing my own version of Part 4 to the story. I don't see it as "Fan
fiction" or anything of the sort. I've written comics, been an editor
professionally, and I review movies. This is how it could have gone down if
leading the charge at Marvel were people who understood the humor of Spidey, the
fun of the heroics, and the soap opera style they say they want to bring back....
JMS and the others are talented writers, to be sure, but I've felt for quite
some time that they never quite GOT Spider-Man.
I'm happy to send you what I've got so far. Let me know!
Thanks Keith, but I don`t have enough time for the Spider-related reading and
writing I`m already doing. (Just ask my editor...)
And for the record, I never said the only way to continue was to deep-six MJ. I
like MJ. All I was trying to do in my "Nine Ways to Leave Your Lover" rant was
satisfy Joey Q`s edict that MJ be shown the door, but in a way that didn`t
insult the reader`s intelligence.
By Andrew.
From Jim
Andrew,
I read your rave and couldn't agree more. I was one of the few on this website
that not only supported, but LOVED the idea of a public Spider-Man. Never mind
the fact that having a secret identity in the age of cell phone cameras would be
near impossible, it is just too cliched.
I was looking forward to all kinds of possibilities and I find it insulting that
not only did they take it back, but in such a stupid, lame, insulting way.
Marvel spit in our faces, and I for one am pissed!
I realize that the book is under new writers now, and coming out more often are
both good decisions. I will continue to read it for a couple of (weeks?
months, maybe) to see where this goes. I hate how we got where we are, but I am
really hoping that some good story lines come out of it.
But frankly, it may be an insurmountable issue for me to overcome. I want to
like, read, and support my favorite comic book still. But I find myself
confused and angry enough that I couldn't even look at the last issue objectivly.
Is this the end for me? I guess I'll have to see what Batman is up to!
And at least The X-Men's Messiah Complex is keeping me entertained!
UGH! says it all.
Thanks for your time.
Most of the staff here at SpiderFan.org share these feelings, Jim: merely
displeased at the idea of a new direction for the title, but appalled and angry
at the way the new direction was implemented.
By Andrew.
From JackSkellington137
Hey Andrew!
I agree that the amazing spiderman series such as one more day, brand new day,
etc. is total trash. The writers, I believe, have given us poorly written plots,
etc. I believe there could have been other ways to develop a better story to
make Spiderman's life more fun and exciting.
But when do you think (or if you believe) that the writers of the amazing
spiderman series would come to thier senses and pick up where they left off
again when spiderman was married, etc.? Do you think if all the spideyfans would
boycott comics or they lose money, they would realize they are not headed to the
right direction with spiderman?
Thanks for your time!
To answer your question, yes, absolutely. Marvel will follow the money, and if
enough people boycott the Spider-books, Marvel will do what it takes to bring
the readers back, up to and including restoring the old status quo.
So if you really hate OMD, you have the power: keep your wallet closed!
By Andrew.
From john_haupt
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU I felt the same exact way. I just hope, that this
is a "Dallas" dream or an alternate universe or anything else that make's this
right again.
As much as I truly hate to admit to it, I'm now beginning to think that OMD/BND
is all an elaborate ruse to get Spider-Fans all up in arms, and then bring him
back here, restoring order by saying that all of this was an elaborate plot by
Mephisto (The Prince of Lies) who really doesn't have the power to alter reality
on this scale. He is just playing Mind Games with Peter and MJ, by tormenting
them with the possibility that he can fix things and save Aunt May's life.
I now predict that six months or a year from now (long after it has been beaten
way past dead by Marvel) it will be revealed for what it is; nothing more than
smoke and mirrors.
By Rob.
From Ksawarrior
Your remember D'spayre?
He appeared first in a Marvel Team-up with Man-thing, and I know he appeared
during the Clone Saga. Think there's a way a clever writer could spin all the
crap in Spidey now to blame it all on this guy.
Well... Dan Slott had a pretty good job at "un-revealing" Peter's identity in
Avengers: The Initiative #7. I'm not sure how effective that can really
be - there's still plenty enough evidence now to pin him on being Spidey.
As for D'spayre being behind the events of One More Day? Well, that would
sure be a nice way to abandon OMD before it goes too far!
The guys on the SpiderFan staff came up with a theory that maybe Mephisto has
just trapped Peter in a "Pocket Universe"... a little private reality in which
he is messing with Spidey's head. I mean, Mephisto is powerful... but is he
really powerful enough to completely rewrite the world to that extent?
If One More Day turns out to be a bit of a "What If" sort of story, then I'd
chalk it up as the best kept April Fool's Joke Secret of all time! But we're
not really convinced that Joey Q is clever enough to pull that one off. After
all, JMS was very unhappy about writing the story (so say the rumors). And he
wouldn't have made all that fuss if it was just a temporary change.
In the meantime... if you don't like what Marvel has done, then stop buying
Amazing Spider-Man and pick up something else instead.
By Jonathan.
From Chris
Hey Jon,
Just wondering what you thought about BND? Doesn't sound like there's too many
good things to say about it... I just finished the first issue, and I'm
seriously considering canceling my subscription. I mean cripes, I read the
entire clone saga and not even THAT was as bad as just this issue.
Do you think Marvel's going to return to the marriage continuity soon if there's
a big enough outcry?
Personally, you know what I think would have been smarter? Peter and/or MJ
agree to decline Mephisto's offer. Then May dies, and then Peter and MJ split
up under the pressure of being fugitives, combined with Peter's resentment over
the decision they made.
I think there's a lot of potential there. I just hate the whole concept of a
"magical wave of the fairy wand" just so that Marvel can "go back to how things
were". Who wants to read stories about how things were? I want to read new
stories with new angles. When I want how things were? I'll go read the old
comics. I'll go read Marvel Adventures, and I'll go read Ultimate Spider-Man!
I think it would be interesting to read stories about Peter in anguish having
split with MJ, Peter on the run being "Secret Spidey" in small towns across
America. Something new! In the meantime, find a better way to restore his
identity. It's not hard... just find somebody else to be Spider-Man for a bit.
Peter saves the world and gets a presidential pardon. Peter and Spidey get
seen together a lot at the same time. Nobody needs to make a deal with the
devil.
Our latest mini-poll shows about 80% of people objecting to most aspects of One
More Day. About 75% think that fan pressure will cause it to be reverted. I'm
not sure. Joey Q is a stubborn guy. But I'm not sure if he's stubborn enough
to risk his career on this. Time will tell.
By Jonathan.
From Emmanuel
Please don't become Freaky Fan Like the Ones Who have videos On youtube Burning
Comics of One more day or flush them on the toilet; It's a comic book!!! I know
you are a spidey fan with class and wont do such things!
Hang on a minute, just got to...
*FLUSH*...
Right, sorry. What were you saying?
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